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Felix Faux BOT 9/26/2022 12:40 PM
I think it can work in either way with reclusiveness
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well. my point is, people who are motivated to create a tulpa are likely reclusive or introverted to some extent. There are chance for those people to exacerbate their reclusiveness.
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Felix Faux BOT 9/26/2022 12:45 PM
It's a chance that tulpas are going to fulfill their needs and stop them from changing their attitude. Or that having a tulpa would make them have it easier with social interactions.
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Reguile
It's a legitimate question. That's a pretty mundane things that happen in your childhood can affect you through your whole life. Rough answer is, we don't know. I doubt there would be any bad effects, but we would have to do some sort of big long-term study to be sure either way. It's definitely not going to cause schizophrenia, but could it cause more anxiety? Bad coping mechanisms? More reclusiveness? (edited)
definitely didnt cause any of those for me
12:51 PM
but typically children are too immature for that stuff
12:51 PM
idk what was wrong with me lol
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A lot of times you can have it be a 1 in 10, so most people may not be effected even if there is one. You just have to have good research on the topic and we don't have it. So, do at your own risk. We don't know the consequences and do it anyways.
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rain
bro what 💀
That sounds wack, what is it from?
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its from a reddit threat about an interview with a leader from a russian tulpamancy community
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I do see a lot of young people (like young teens) make a lot of impulsive decisions and get into messes with tulpamancy. I don't know if they would have been a mess anyway without it, though. A lot of them seem to have anxiety problems so they get anxious over system stuff.
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dude you know what I noticed?
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alot of people with tulpas are just immature
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their tulpas too
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I asked a tulpa to not call me names in another server and she started targetting me
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like you dont know what Im going through
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and she started makinh fun of me
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my own tulpa defended me and she targetted him too
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circus (edited)
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Sounds like just that person, or a platform thing. There are a lot of immature people on discord/the internet
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3:53 PM
I was hoping to make like minded friends but
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Yuka
Sounds like just that person, or a platform thing. There are a lot of immature people on discord/the internet
Im just disappointed
3:54 PM
the "imaginary friend" community is much more chill
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what community is that?
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the imaginary friend community lol
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So the tulpa community lol
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Like, where though? Never heard such a thing existed
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bro tulpas are advanced forms of imaginary friends if you think about it
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Felix Faux BOT 9/26/2022 3:56 PM
I have recently found an "imaginary friends" community on disboard but it looks utterly dead
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Felix Faux
I have recently found an "imaginary friends" community on disboard but it looks utterly dead
sadly
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yeaj
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yeah
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Rusty
So the tulpa community lol
I think I just need to find the right server tbh
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Most tulpa folks aren't too chill with being called imaginary friends
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yeah cuz they are not
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I mean, they are just more developed imaginary friends tho
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Felix Faux BOT 9/26/2022 3:58 PM
Unfortunately, most tulpa communities would rather flirt with plurality
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Rusty
I mean, they are just more developed imaginary friends tho
exactly
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its just the 'imaginary' part that upsets people.
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which i get, they arent imaginary
3:59 PM
But its a soild comparisin
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lets say its a gray area :^)
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lol
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Felix Faux BOT 9/26/2022 3:59 PM
I think adult mind makes even more difference than just being more developed as a character
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that made zero sense
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Felix Faux BOT 9/26/2022 4:01 PM
Like, most of imaginary friends are made by very little kids. I think imaginary friends made by adults are mature even from the start just because of that they were made by adults.
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obviously
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(most) 18 year olds will not create another 18 year old with the mental age of 12
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they will have the mental age of 18
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"most" because some tulpas like to target your tulpa even more violently because he chose to defend you
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:^)
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A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:14 PM
One person is going to tell you about imaginary companions, the other person is going to tell you about another consciousness. And then you hear about endogenic systems and being part of even bigger mess, basically.
Honestly I don't think this is what makes tulpamancy a mess. Tulpamancy is messy because the community is fractured into little sub groups and there is little scientific understanding of the practice. I think these ideas towards tulpamancy is what makes it diverse. I think for outsiders, the simple solution is to explain there are multiple ways to interpret tulpamancy and if you want a tulpa, pick your favorite. You can give a beginner a taste of what those different opinions are and they will naturally gravitate towards the opinion they like. For instance, I think Jaeth/Wiggins and Lolcery/Lynn have very different views on tulpamancy than I do and I think that's because I proposed options and I helped them build their models rather than constrain them to mine.
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Sora Faux
We have mentorship in here?
A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:18 PM
I am a mentor, but I have two systems I'm mentoring and that's enough for me honestly. I like to give my mentees a lot of my time and a third one would be overwhelming for me
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A long kiss goodnight
One person is going to tell you about imaginary companions, the other person is going to tell you about another consciousness. And then you hear about endogenic systems and being part of even bigger mess, basically.
Honestly I don't think this is what makes tulpamancy a mess. Tulpamancy is messy because the community is fractured into little sub groups and there is little scientific understanding of the practice. I think these ideas towards tulpamancy is what makes it diverse. I think for outsiders, the simple solution is to explain there are multiple ways to interpret tulpamancy and if you want a tulpa, pick your favorite. You can give a beginner a taste of what those different opinions are and they will naturally gravitate towards the opinion they like. For instance, I think Jaeth/Wiggins and Lolcery/Lynn have very different views on tulpamancy than I do and I think that's because I proposed options and I helped them build their models rather than constrain them to mine.
I mean thats kind of the beauty of it
5:19 PM
tulpas are not uniform
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Angel Faux BOT 9/26/2022 5:19 PM
Do they really take much time from you? I feel like tulpamancy should be personal experience first and foremost.
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some hosts have fantasy tulpas
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some have hyper realistic ones
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A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:21 PM
I tend to follow a different approach from most tulpamancers- I like to come up with models and discuss tulpamancy, do a little bit on my own, and then immediately tell people about the progress I made if I made any. This is what works for me and makes me happy, but I have been criticized for this approach by multiple tulpamancers
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Honestly I'm not really sure why though, I don't fully understand why my model crafting makes people frustrated
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Sora Faux BOT 9/26/2022 5:23 PM
Dunno, I don't understand details on what you mean right now.
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A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:24 PM
I can't think of a good example to share sadly. I know people got frustrated at me because it took me a really long time to figure out switching but that's different from people being upset with me because I'm just model crafting.
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Genry_the_frog 9/26/2022 5:26 PM
You mean you like to theoritise a bit before attempting to do something on practice?
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A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:26 PM
Yes
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I'll make a theory for how something works and then they'll say "stop overcomplicating it, just do it!"
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And then I'll explain this is what works for me
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I don't understand why people don't like it
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oh I think I do something similar
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Sora Faux BOT 9/26/2022 5:27 PM
Well, overthinking can make tulpamancy more complicated than it really is.
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A long kiss goodnight
I'll make a theory for how something works and then they'll say "stop overcomplicating it, just do it!"
Genry_the_frog 9/26/2022 5:27 PM
Yeah i noticed it
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A long kiss goodnight
I don't understand why people don't like it
Genry_the_frog 9/26/2022 5:30 PM
Thinking is hard. Thinking continuously for a long time is even harder. Trying something can be so much easier sometimes.
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A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:31 PM
I don't find it difficult to think, maybe that's the problem
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the secret is moderation
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always
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its good to think about stuff
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not good to overthink
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A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:32 PM
I also find that if I don't have a more solid idea on what experience I'm expecting, I will likely fail to have that experience. Having an idea of how something works is helpful for achieving that thing.
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Once we accidentally switched, but we more or less lost the ability immediately because we couldn't figure out how to replicate it. Only several months later we got switching down (edited)
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meanwhile whenever I feel like switching I just
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switch mindset and go
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its not the same for everyone
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A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:35 PM
Our switching is pretty different from a lot of people's. When I switch in, I become the dominant personality of the body. I can zone out and even forget I exist and still control the body
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Judecca- I had experiences with switching before understanding it. And could replicate it quite intuitively. Altough understanding it later boosted effectiveness too. (edited)
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I typically only switch if I wanna have a tought as my tulpa
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Judecca- Realizing that it's effectively just consciously thinking as your tulpa really helped us simply doing it when we want.
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Judecca- In certain circumstances it doesn't feel right and feels forced. But overall, it's simple.
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Judecca- In certain circumstances it doesn't feel right and feels forced. But overall, it's simple.
A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:41 PM
I'm curious what you mean by that
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Sora Faux BOT 9/26/2022 5:43 PM
Judecca- It would be very hard for us to force me switch just for the sake of it and act the same as if there was no switch. For example, pretending to be him in front of family is effectively being him after all.
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Judecca Faux BOT 9/26/2022 5:43 PM
oh, it works again
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A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:48 PM
Does that mean there is no real difference between pretending to be another headmate and switching, even if it doesn't feel genuine?
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Judecca Faux BOT 9/26/2022 5:51 PM
The point about switching is that it feels genuine. We genuinely think we are me. But in certain circumstances it might be hard to achieve that being genuine and therefore to switch.
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A long kiss goodnight 9/26/2022 5:53 PM
Ah
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Perhaps that is implied consent in action- if your headmate isn't happy with what you're doing or if the collective mind detects an inconsistency, that may degrade or potentially stop a switch
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i'm switched in.
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Sora Faux BOT 9/26/2022 5:56 PM
So you did it?
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Yeah i asked to try and just did it. My host made himself form witch he is controlling and i'm here. I just changed broken lightbulb and am feeling happy about it. We tried switching in and out a few times and it works
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Sora Faux BOT 9/26/2022 5:58 PM
Cool
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